Un-Rx'D
Join the un-Rx'd podcast for "unscripted" and insightful conversations with medical professionals who uncover and share proven solutions for a healthier, more natural approach to feeling better and maintaining balance in mind and body. Explore effective, low-risk alternatives to conventional pharmaceuticals and surgical interventions in every episode, empowering you to take control of your well-being.
Un-Rx'D
Celebrating Relationships, Growth, and Passion Through Connection EP8 (Embracing Our Humanity Part 2)
We dive into the world of Liberty training for horses and explore the profound relationship between humans and these majestic creatures. Liberty training showcases horses' incredible sensitivity and trust in their connection with humans. It's all about control without using a harness, relying on cues rather than force, and fostering a deep bond built on trust, care, and respect.
YOUR TONE SETS THE TONE
But it's not just about the horses. The conversation also delves into the shifting dynamics in our society, particularly emphasizing the need to prioritize efficacy and warmth in medical care and mental health. The importance of teaching future generations about human interaction and conflict resolution is also highlighted, especially in light of the younger generation's rapid evolution and differing perspectives, which create a delicate and tricky landscape that demands grace and respect.
These experiences during the COVID-19 pandemic are shared, expressing frustration with people not adhering to social distancing and mask-wearing measures. However, amidst these challenges, a heartwarming story captures the importance of human connection and kindness during difficult times.
The episode also delves into the impact of the pandemic on interpersonal interactions and the decline in conflict resolution skills and human connection. Emphasizing the need for grace and understanding in difficult situations, the discussion articulates the significance of approaching others with kindness and empathy.
Ultimately, the episode balances the profound connection between humans and horses in Liberty training and the broader societal themes of human connection, empathy, and conflict resolution, shedding light on the power of relationships and kindness in shaping our world.
Connect with Janene on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theacupuncturist_org/
Connect with Jennie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennie_pool/
I, , at a moment the other day, I'm watching my friends. They have a, one of those, those in house gardens. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I went by their house and parked in the driveway.
I'm walking up to the door and I have the keys and say, Hey, neighbor's outside. Yeah. And as loud and militant as he could, he said, do you have some ID? And I was like, so that means something. Yeah. I was like, and exactly. That's what I did. He said, Yeah, but I need to see some ID. No, you don't. You need to see that I have their keys.
And I was like, and I just froze. It was an interesting moment because I knew it. I knew what was happening when it was happening. Yeah. I was like, this is triggering me. Yeah. And I know, I'm in freeze. I am in freeze response. It was so cool to stand there and just look at him. And I was not happy. Sure.
And he knew I was not happy. Because he's rude. And I, I stood there and like face like squared on with him. I could tell I was like, wow, I am ready to fight. I am in freeze mode, but I am ready to fight this guy. Yeah. Pivot. Yeah. And I just like, I could feel like my muscles starting to shake. And there was like this like core of adrenaline that went down into my legs and my quads.
It was crazy. And I was like, I am still. Disregulated. Yeah. And this is a dysregulated response. Oh, for this man overkill versus like, why are you talking to me like that? Like, yeah, differently. Well, a dysregulated response on his part too. For sure. Flex was so completely a reaction to his tone. That's why it's like, why are you talking to me like this?
If you wonder why I'm entering this house, why not ask me nicely, nicely, because I would, I would expect you to assume that the only reason I'm entering this house is under the auspice of I have a mission to be here. I've been invited. Yeah. Right. So that being said, I have their keys. And do you want to ask me differently?
Yeah. Right. So, right. But like, Here comes the moment. Yeah. Right. But like, his tone set the tone. Right. That's the key that people need to understand. The tone sets the tone. Sometimes people are like, I can't believe you reacted that way. Right. The tongue says the tongue. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, there's none of this like, you can't read into what I said by the way I said it.
You just have to go with the way I said it, and I absolutely can. Yeah. The way you say something absolutely shapes the next coming moments. For sure. Yes. Okay. So this was the next moment that happened. He's like, nah, I'm just kidding. And I was like, and he started like laughing. And here I am, and I'm, I'm like, You're like this now, like, Like, oscillating between this fight and freeze response.
And then you want to kind of be like, well, F you then, for like, activating that. I was so, like, I checked my aura range. It wasn't and I was in stress. I peaked way high up in stress and my, like my heart rate variability dropped my breath, my respiratory rate increased. Like I was stressed out. Yeah. And so it's like, yes, I can look at that and say, Oh, Janine, you're still dysregulated because the scared animal is still just now wandering out of the cage in some ways.
But fuck that guy. Because That's not a normal way to treat other people and especially with the number of people and so I think what happened in me was This is obviously a very Militant man. Yeah I could gather that from some of the other things. I I witnessed. Yeah and About his house. Yeah He's like just no Consciously unconscious.
I'm gonna keep this neighborhood safe. Yeah. Yeah. And so I was like, is he going to shoot me? Because some of that shit has happened. Yeah. And so in that moment. Like, I guess I, I was left felt, I, I was left feeling a little bit like,
I wish I had a gun on me too. Yeah. And why do women in America carry guns? To protect themselves against American men. Why do men in America carry guns? To protect themselves against China. And other foreign invaders. But, women in America, for the most part, are protecting themselves against other Americans.
Yes, well said. And that was, that was like a That's why I willed one. Yeah. Good, I'm glad. Well, separate from that, I got a, , one of those shocker things, what are they called? Oh yeah, the tasers. The tasers, because I thought, I am pretty comfortable with this, but like, I feel like it's hard to get going. And this thing, at least I can get you, And then I can get that thing if I need to.
Yeah. Because I can't be like bumbling around. I know. Like, oh my god, I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. Hold on a sec. Can you just pause? Honey, when you're writing, wait. I need you to wait. Before you attack me. I have things to do. I have, I need at least ten more seconds. At least I thought I could be like zip.
Now I have ten seconds. Safety! Somebody take the safety off! Did I do that too long? I feel like he's not moving anymore at all. How long are you supposed to put these things on people? Should I pull the trigger again? Does that keep the shock going? My son was like, what did he say to me? Oh, he was going to New York.
He's like, can I have 200 for spending money? I said, yes, but if you let me shock you with this thing, I'll give you 300. He was like, okay. And he's like, no, actually not. I was like, I just want to see, is this the equivalent of a, Grabbing an electric fence from your horses or it's worse. So I'm glad I was so joking.
So people would be like, I can't believe you said that to your son. I was like, I was kind of, I was joking, but please don't ever, especially your boys. But it was funny watching his choice. He was like, he was like, no, no, they hurt. They, they fucked some people up. Well, I'm glad I have it because in the end it gives me more seconds to find the other more lethal thing, but I was like, I need an in between.
I can't get to the lethal thing. I think fast enough sometimes zoom. I did the Tough Mudder one year. That's hard. Okay. So there's this one, there's a couple of obstacles where you're crawling, you're like army crawling through this thing. And they had these little wires hanging down and they've connected it to a, an old car battery.
That's, that's too much. I'm like, I just have the wires hit me and I almost dropped. And it was at the finish line and I was super excited. So I'm like, yeah, I'm like crawling to the finish line now. And it like got me and I was like, ugh. The fire line, you're like, I'll just falter that, I don't care. I almost passed out.
Like it almost reset me. I was like, God. Like, dude, I think that's not legal. Yeah, it was bad. And I'm sure that's probably More the, the, , the frequency that those tasers are on. They, they will take you down. Maybe even stop your heart. Well, let's be clear, I would never shot my son, but it was fun to tease him about it.
Totally. I was like, do you want 200 or do you want 300? He's like, just give me 200. Don't shot, don't kill me mom. He said, no, we need to save though. He was like, I'll do it for a thousand. I'm like, I'm not giving you a thousand dollars to try this out. I was like, that's too much. Oh my god, that's so funny. I was like, but would you really do it for a thousand?
He's like, I don't know. He's like, I said that, but now that, now that you might take me up on it, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think it'd be worth it. Yeah, no, I don't think it might be. I wouldn't do it anyways. I'd be like, dude, I was just kidding about this whole thing, but I wanted to see your thresholds and now I know what they are.
Have you seen the YouTube videos of those things? No, but I should look at them. Yes, it would be good for me too, because then I'll Your kids take . I would never do it, but I would do it to somebody that was trying to hurt me. Oh, totally. For for sure. I'd be like holding that thing for, I'd be like, are you dead?
I don't know if someone tried to hurt me or my kids, I would definitely, yeah, I would definitely do what I needed to do to protect me and my own, especially my kids, like you have to cuff my arms and my legs or kill me to stop me from saving my kids. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Mama bear energy for sure.
I think I'd be one of those psychos that just loses it. Like what did you do here? I'd like try to kill my baby. So do you expect me to remember anything beyond trying to kill my baby? Yeah. If you tried to hurt my baby, I lost it. Yeah. You know that phenomena where, yes, where you see red, nothing, nothing else computes beyond that.
I cannot be held accountable for my actions. Did you watch a mama bear in action? And that's what we'll do. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Totally. It's funny. Yeah. But it was funny because he was, he was like, a thousand dollars, I'm like, no. And then I was like, well. And he was like, actually, no. But I, there was one time I was like, I was at some horses and they had an electric fence.
And I remember swinging back and I hit it. And I remember being like, that was pretty uncomfortable. I can't imagine these things. Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't get off that fence fast enough. Yeah, my brothers, my brother and sisters, when we were young, we grew up with horses. Yeah, the reason, the reason, yeah, the reason the horses stay away from it is they know.
It sucks. They touch it one time. They're like, I'll never touch that again. I'm gonna stay away from that damn thing. Those things are like a ton. I don't know how much horses live, but they weigh a lot more than we do. My brother and sisters used to get us as the little ones to go and test the electric fence.
Are you serious? Like, can we go see if that's on? Yes. Go touch it. Because that's how they'll know. Because we had this huge farm and we had an electric fence just wired through the entire farm. And there was one central circuit board for it. And I don't know, I guess there were some places that didn't work and I don't know.
I don't understand electric fence. So you want to know what some of them do. They make sure the horses know that it's on. So they basically like introduce it to a boom, shock them, and then they turn it off because the horses will never touch it again. Almost never. Does that make sense? Because they like know that that thing is on.
Yeah. Like, we did it once. And so they never have to run. They never have to run. Right. Because they never have to run the electricity again. They kind of trust that the horses will never like venture. And they're like, we learned that that is a scary, ouchy thing and we'll never touch it again. So even if you try and bring a horse close and it's off, they'll be like, Oh, we know that that thing shocks us.
So what is it with, with cows and larger farm animals? Because there's, it's not, you don't have the electric fence. You have the barbed wire. Do they not respond to the electric fence? I never understand why livestock. wasn't held in with electric fence versus horses. I wonder, well, horses are so intuitive.
I can only tell you my experience from horses. Horses are so intuitive that if you, if you teach them that something can hurt them, they'll remember that for a long time. Yeah. That's why damaged horses take a long time to, it's not they're unrecoverable, but with trauma, they take a bit to recover. I think like ox.
So, um, we're gonna talk about, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, And then the whole herd gets out because it's like, they're all like, well, this one was the front runner and, and it does hurt them.
Right. But I think they're just less sensitive. Right. And so, and I don't know if that's a genetic thing, right, but I just know horses are incredibly sensitive. They, that's why when you, if you're scared, they'll be like, well, we know you're scared. Like horses freaking know if you have, they're your emotions.
That's why when you're on them, you have to feel like you're safe and confident. And if you're scared, That's why the one horse that like knows if you know how to like manage them versus the one that doesn't it's like doing whatever It wants it's like this horse is listening to me And then you get an experienced rider on it and it's like doing everything it's supposed to it's like oh this person knows what?
What it's doing. Yeah, so you can't do that anymore. How are your babies? They're so good Are they?
I've watched some people. I. In my townhouse, there was a farm across the road, and I watched, the one owner, and he was always very sweet, very gentle with his horses, he would go out there and exercise them, and never was intimidating, never laid hand on them, just, he communicated with them, and they loved him.
Rightly so. Right. They're like, this is our person. And then like one day I actually called him and I was like, Hey, do you still have your horses there? Cause I'm seeing some very questionable behavior. There's a guy, he's yanking on the lead rope. And, this doesn't look like, it looks like there's somebody trying to train the human to be with the horse.
It's also, it's very. disjointed and it looks abusive. And he was like, yeah, I don't have my horses there anymore. I moved. And unfortunately that's how some people manage their horses. And I was like, wow, that sucks because this guy, his psychology is all over him. He is rough. I'm going to make you listen because you have to obey me out of fear versus love.
He's an abuser. Yeah. Like you can see that from the way he's treating these horses. And thankfully I never saw him again. Yeah. Like I think that the people who were bringing their horses there, I don't know if they were interviewing him, like, Hey, can you, we're going to bring our horses here. Can you take care of them?
Whatever happened, like that guy didn't show back up. Yeah. Because they treated their horses better beyond that. Well, there's a movement happening in the horse world that I think is beautiful. It's called the liberty training. Yeah. I've heard of it. Yeah. Where I've seen people riding their horses. All they have is a rope around their neck.
The lead rope is around their, it sounds weird to say around their neck, but it just is like a cue and they don't, so they don't have, the beautiful thing about it is the rope is just loose around their neck and their bridle. Less and they're writing them. That's cool. And they're writing them in the open and it's just is it around there Their neck or is it around their breasts?
Well, I've heard of the it's around their breasts But when they pull up on it, it kind of slides up, but it's just a cue All you have to do is basically grab it. It's and say whoa, right? It's it's mainly a two minute cue So again, like the bit it's very soft. It's as soon as Because again, remember, if a horse can shake off a fly, if they can feel a fly land on them and shake it off, they can feel you as soon as you're picking up the lead rope to stop them, right?
They can feel all of that happening. They can feel that you've now grabbed it and now there's different pressure. That's how sensitive horses are. So as soon as you grab that rope and say, whoa, they're already responding to that. In liberty training, what you're connecting to is the trust that the horse will stop as soon as you grab.
Those people that have had their horses Liberty Trains where they don't need a bridle and they just have the horse around their breast collar, like the rope around their breast collar, as it slides up to their neck, they're not choking them, they're literally just giving them a cue. Yeah. And they're never having to put more pressure than anything other than the cue.
Right. I love it. Because there's so much attunement. I love it. I actually signed up for the gal who, I think she was the core gal that invented Liberty Training. Yeah. It was so cool. There's so much stuff you can do with foals. to get them ready for Liberty training. But I'd eventually like to have Hazel and Saber.
I don't know if Saber could ever be ridden as a stallion in Liberty. We'll have to see with other mares because I'm all about trail riding. Like, I don't want to just go by myself. I want to take people with me that want to go, right? Yeah. Yeah. Already. So I don't need to be like fighting some stallion trying to mount a mare.
Yeah. But I could ride eventually Saber and Liberty by myself. I think. I think so, for sure. I've seen like horse after horse, after horse, after horse, do it, poor horses, Arabians, warm bloods, all the different, you always see, if you can do something once, that's cool. If you see it a thousand times amongst different breeds, that's something.
Then that says that this is the right way to communicate with another species. Yes, and the horse is listening to you because it loves you. You not because it has to do Yeah. I love, I love that space is that you're doing this because you love me and I asked you to, because I'm making you. Yeah. And, and in that love, there's an equal exchange of, of respect and caretaking.
Yeah. You're taking care of them. They're gonna take care of you. Yeah. And that's the same thing that's going on. i mean there is such an upheaval right now. It's because there's so many people who have been like, No damn it! I'm not going to be abuse anymore. Yeah, I talked to a gal recently. She's like, I think I'm going to have to make a pivot out of my relationship.
I said, did anyone want to make a pivot out of the relationship for eight years? The difference is, you finally feel You have your education, you have your degree, you feel financially secure. enough to make the pivot out that I'll be okay. So instead of relying on survival, and you're not in a place of like, I don't need you.
I just want you. So if, if this isn't working anymore, I don't need this anymore. And there's such power in being able to make decisions and relationships. Because you want that relationship versus you like you need it. Yeah. And that happens more for women than it does for men in that. I have to have this because I don't know how to take care of myself about it person.
I just want this. Yeah. Because I can take care of myself. Yeah. It's such a strange time. What a crazy time. Yeah. It's , I find myself saying more often than not, we're still in the dark ages. And we are. It's true. We really are. Although you will see that, this is where I see the awakening happen in, in the mental health field, but also the medical field, is that more and more people are.
clamoring for I want efficacy in my care. Don't bullshit me and don't not listen to me. If you don't listen to me, I'll just go find somebody else. Yeah. And so what they're finding is I can't just tell you a general thing. Like you need to feel like I'm helping you. Yeah. And people are calling more and more for efficacy and also connected to that.
I think warmth in the presentation. Yeah. Yeah. I love this girl. Yeah. And so if you, as a clinician, as a medical provider, as any kind of professional in the world, if you can't combine efficacy with warmth, it's going to be hard. Yeah. Because they realize they have choices, and they'll make those choices.
I'll tell you this much. There is so much work to do to train the next wave of humans to be with other humans. Agreed. That is a. By the way, the art of that is lost. And I will tell you this, this happened five years ago. There was actually a research, I wish I'll find the research paper and I'll send it to you.
These medical students were having a hard time grasping the concept of how a heart worked because they had never worked a pump. And so because they had never physically worked a pump, they were struggling to grasp the concept of a, of a heart working as a pump. Hmm. And so they were struggling to amalgamate, right?
Yeah. Yeah. The idea that. The hearts to pump because they had never kinesthetically. Yeah. Like pumped. Just, yeah. those like water pumps that you have to like pump Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back and forth to get out in the field. Yeah. Because the water comes out. Oh. And then it kind of eventually tapers off and you're like, I gotta pump that thing again.
Yeah. To get the water out. Right. But because they had never physically, ever exponentially or experientially left a pump, they struggle with the concept. So, you're working with a generation of people that not just experientially have experienced less but emotionally have experienced less because in a world where I can just stop talking to you and I don't have to deal with conflict resolution, I don't have to deal with, it's just easier to disengage.
Oh, totally. And so, you're working with a population of people that have to learn how to humanistically interact with people and deal with conflict. It's a way without being kind of cold and just disconnected. Yeah. To reawaken them to like, well, it's no wonder that you think that you can just kind of do it this way because you haven't had to qualitatively do it this way.
But you actually have to. Here's a little foreshadowing. And I'm, I'm, I always do. I, I leap five lily pads ahead. Rightly so. Okay. And maybe someday you and I are going to look back on this moment and have this conversation like, holy shit, I can't, I can't even believe where we've evolved to. We'll probably be very old, but this is part of the conversation I had with my dad tonight was, I was like, Dad, I'm watching as the generation that is now most prevalent and up and coming They're pointing the finger everywhere and saying this is wrong.
This is wrong. Take down that statue. This is wrong. This is wrong that's wrong and And that was just Your way of life. That was just the evolution right of what was happening at the time and Here you are an 80 year old Fragile man, okay Because we are. Every fucking one of us is going to be fragile at 80.
Yes. Okay? Unless, well, maybe not. Maybe we'll transcend that. Things are changing and maybe we're going to live forever. But, you and I are not too far removed from that age. Right. Okay? It, , it's like they say, like, time flies. Yeah. And before you know it, you're going to be 80. And I wonder a lot, what am I doing now in my thought process that as an 80 year old, somebody who has lived so much life, that in so many ways, I have adapted to a way that allows me to survive and therefore, I am not wrong, because I am still alive.
I've beat the odds. Yeah. Okay. I'm fucking not wrong. I'm still here. And I've got a generation, generations of humans that are younger than me pointing to me and saying, you're wrong. That's not the right way to do it. And that, I think that was probably the magical moment that I had with my dad tonight where I was like, dad, I don't think that.
Our species knows what to do with the rapid evolution of what's going on right now. I don't think so either. So, it's tricky. It's a very delicate, tricky landscape. And if we don't traverse this with grace, Yeah. Grace and respect for one another, we will be our own demise. That's true, and Jean, I guarantee you, if not in 5, 10, 15, 20 years, what you will be teaching people is maybe, for sure, how medicine, what medicine works, but also what means, like remembering, helping people remember what it means to connect with people.
Because the art of connecting with people is being lost. I know. That's our job. Yeah, and it's easier to withdraw and just be like, I'm going to ghost you, or I'm just going to say that you're a narcissist right now, rather than manage conflict. And then what's going to, the resulting thing that's going to happen is this, what I would, I don't know if I want to call it weird sensitivity, but an over reactive sensitivity to conflict that would otherwise be very normal to work through.
And that brings us full circle. To the beginning of our conversation, there is this undeniable insistence within me that says, tie up those loose ends. Do something, say something. This is your opportunity for kindness. It is just a simple human kindness. Just be kind. Just be kind. And beautiful. And well done for you to lean into that because people ignore that Janine.
And then later sometimes either have regrets and or even if they don't remember that they could have or should have or would have done that, it, it's like kindness doesn't, isn't going to hurt you. Right. It's like leave with kindness and you're not wrong. You're not wrong to fuel that with and leave that with a level of kindness and And it doesn't mean that you have to open the door to toxicity, right?
Yeah. And or like depleting yourself or It doesn't mean that we've re, that we're re engaging and, and water under the bridge. It's more like, no, that bridge burnt. Yeah. And , there's no, like the, the connection to the toxicity that was on the other side of that bridge is like completely impassable forevermore.
I'm saying this because I'm going to say it now because 30 years later, you can be like, you said this and we'll be like 70, but I'm going to be teaching people how to remember what it was like to connect to human beings. I really believe that some of the work I'm going to do in my later years is remind you what it feels like to have a humanistic connection versus be more robotic and less, unless kind of cold and calculated, but more like, where's the warmth in connection because.
I just see it, like, I couldn't be more proud of my 15 year old who sent me this certificate from McDonald's. He was like that, it was, oh, oh, where is my phone, I don't even know. It was like, a certificate of like, congratulations for being the most courteous employee. My 15 year old got that, and I was like, way to go, you're awesome, and that's so cool, that says something about you, and like, holy shit, I'm doing something right as a mom, to help instill, like, Courtesy.
Just be kind. He was, he tells me the craziest story sometimes, too, of people that are just upset. He's like, I just answer with kindness. I said, oh, there you go, dude. There was a time in my life, when he was 14, now he's almost 16, where I thought, I think you're going to be an a hole the rest of your life.
Like, what is happening here? Like, be nice. Be nice to me, first and foremost. I do a lot for you, but second to that, be nice to the people. That's funny. Yeah. And I was like, oh my gosh, this says a lot. That's so cool. Your evolution bud. Somebody just needs to shake it off. Yeah. But he's a, he's in a generation of people that sometimes don't.
Like, yeah, they get learned to, but learn to be like, I can just delete you. I can just not talk to you. I can ignore you. I don't have to do anything about this. And unfortunately, it's growing a low tolerance to Or engagement and conflict resolution and that's an incredible skill as a human being to have Yeah, conflict resolution and when you lose that in people, it's a it's a scary state I think yeah, because either people get bombastic reactive and go to fight mode or just avoidant mode Yep.
Yep. Yep. Yep. And when people feel ghosted they're like it's distressing as well. It's funny Um My dad said probably about 10 years ago, he was like, hold on to that skill set that you have. You're going, you're going to make a lot of money purely from teaching people how to talk to other people. Yes. Yes.
Very soon. And now here we are. And I'm like, Oh God. You, you do lead with love and kindness. Well, when you look at How the people that you work on talk about you and it's almost, and it's inevitable. The students that you teach will lead with love and a humanistic approach. And that's, fortunately, I'm telling you right now, unfortunately it's sad that that's being lost.
You look at even in 2020 what COVID did, like, I can't believe some of the ways that I was talked to when I was pregnant. I was, so I had Bruce in May of 2020, like I had people walking up to me. Because I sure had a mask on and couldn't breathe because I was about to have a baby. Right. But my three, , let's see, Bobby was three, four at the time, and they were a mask on your kid.
I was like, all he did was like move it around, right? He would just keep it on. I was like, I remember this lady went out of her way to walk up to me and be like, you should have your son have a mask on. I said, and then there was a guy by me that had a kid my age. I said, so he could do that? Because the kid was messing around with his mask the whole time.
I said. I'm glad that you went out of your way, of your day, to make sure that even though no one asked you to be the mask police today. I said, and you're actually within the six feet bubble, I'm surprised you're exposing yourself to my toxins, like to my toxins. She probably should, even though I have a mask on, my son doesn't, I'm surprised you got that close to us.
It's hard for me not to be sarcastic, but I was like, You can tell I'm about to have a baby. There was no question. Like any given moment, this baby was about to come out of my belly. Oh my God. And that's what you spent your time. I was like, that was, I said, it's interesting that you spent your time doing that today.
I said, I hope that you feel good about what you decided to do today. I said, I hope that that felt good to you. I was like, it was so hard for me to not be like COVID was such a disaster. I was like, I said, I had in my, in, in, in the foundation that I knew why people were scared, but I, uh, at the end of the day, there was no grace giving.
it was like, having to go to the grocery store to get him tired. And the last thing I want to do is do that. Yeah. With my three or three and a half four year old. Right. Like who is fighting with his mask. Like you don't think that I thought about that before I went to the store? Like how much shit am I going to get with him Fingering around with his mask, like just don't even worry about it.
And yeah, when I went out of their way to make sure. And I was like, I'm really surprised that you Put yourself at risk to come talk to me today. Like, well done. Good job. Well done. I'm glad that I was informed. I'm sorry that Harmony isn't paying you to do this. Message received. Yeah. I'm like, leave with love.
Yeah. So much. But, at the end of the day, I looked at the kid by me and I was like, that's exactly what Bo would be doing if I tried to make him wear a mask. It wouldn't even be on half the time. Yeah. The kid was pulling it off, pulling it back on, pulling it back on. We're exposing people, like, maybe I should have just door dashed, you know, or like, insta carded, but at the end of the day, I knew we needed milk.
I had like three items in my cart. I was, I looked at the items in my cart, I'm like, well, that sure wasn't worth it. You know? It was one of those moments where I was like, man, what is happening in the world today? And people would be like, well, we were scared we didn't have enough code, it was a plague.
Okay. Yeah, I know. But if you were that worried about it was a plague, one, don't come to Harman's and shop, or two. Don't come and talk to me. Like, if you thought you were going to get, like, died, don't. She was well within the six foot mark to talk to me. She certainly wasn't talking to me six feet away, like, Hey, I think you're supposed to have a mask on.
She was, like, right up in my face. Wow, you're getting exposed. Just, I don't know if this, this isn't an N95 mask. So, I don't know if you're even getting some exposure and toxins. Bacterias or COVID mutagens. From me as we're talking right now, you could be getting those from my mask. This doesn't screen all of that.
So you're putting yourself at risk. Just saying this to me, I was like, it was hard for me not to say all that stuff. I went for a walk and like, I had to have been like at least a thousand feet from where I was walking down the sidewalk to where this truck pulled up to a stop sign. Right. And the guy was smoking.
And I could smell the smoke from his truck. And I was like, COVID! Okay? Like, that's how far our breath travels on the air. Right. When we're outside. Right. This whole thing is I'm not sure I'm not sure that the masks are doing the thing that we think they're doing. I'll tell you what. That. If this is an airborne.
Yeah, and that moment in time when it created, let's say that it was a deadly plague, okay, be really careful and keep your kids safe and yourself safe. But it wasn't, and so at the day what it created was animosity. Like people being like, fucking stay your distance. Yeah. Don't get by me. Neighbors that used to be friendly like stay away from me.
All it did, a lot of what it did was create dissonance. And unfortunately some of that still exists today. The ripples of that still are out there, even though here in St. George, it's not so much, but I will tell you, I couldn't even believe there was, there was also another time when I was at Costco and I literally was, it was a week prior to having the baby and I'm like, I need to get more wipes.
I went to Costco braves the shit show of Costco and the lady's like, you know what? Or cause it was 2020. They're like, we're only getting one of those. I was like, what? I can only buy one box of wipes. She was like, yeah, I'm only doing one. She's like, what you can do is come tomorrow and get another box.
And I looked at her and I was like, I'm about to have this baby. Like I'm not trying to like stockpile wipes and sell them on the black market. I literally am about to have, I just need wipes. Like, I was like, I, I just need you to let me buy two boxes. Cause I'm not coming back here tomorrow. I'm tired.
Like I, did she just need these wipes? She was like, no, she was like, no. And this other lady. There was a manager that said, buy the one box here and I'll let you buy the other box here. I said, thank you. But that lady was not going to bend. She was like, no two box wipes here. Like, not going to happen. I was like, well the last thing she could do in a time when there's a pandemic and everybody's going to die is lose her job.
Yeah. At the end of the day, I'm like, send me to another register. I was like, I don't care how I buy these wipes today. Yeah. I need these wipes. I promise I'm not trying to make money on your wipes. I'm not going to sell these for 40. I just want to! I just want some wipes for my baby. When my baby's born.
When he's here, I don't have to go anywhere. I just have the things. What a weird experiment. It was so weird. It was such a weird time. She's like, there's a sign. I said, oh, what's that? I was like, this lady, like, I was so grateful. I said, I'm so grateful that you figured out how to make this happen. She's like, you're obviously having a baby anytime soon.
I said, obviously, I literally, and I had my boobie there. He's like, baby, I want this. I was like about ready to cry. I was like, I just, you just should have, you should have, you should have just cried. Somebody, Came over and said, I'll buy these for you. I'm going to override this transaction. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, you know what?
I will get, I'll give you the 20 in cash. Can you put these, you don't have wipes. So can I put these on your cart? I wish you had gone into full trend, full tantrum, full tantrum. There's a lady here losing it. Yeah. Yeah. She might have her baby right here. We need to get her these wipes. Yeah. Let's come back to being human.
Yeah, that's it. You will teach people how to remember to be human. The humanistic side of things, because you're looking at a generation that's more cold, more calculated, more strategic. It's fine to be strategic, but Our robots are warmer than we are. Yeah, so you'll teach, you'll help remind people how to be human.
Yeah, thank you.
Thanks everybody for joining us. And if you want to connect with me, I'm at the acupuncturist underscore org on Instagram. And if you want to connect with me, I'm at mend, M E N D mend counseling center. com. And also Jenny J E N N I E underscore pool P O O L. And that's my Instagram. Thanks. See you next time.
